{"id":989,"date":"2018-04-05T09:13:47","date_gmt":"2018-04-05T13:13:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/?p=989"},"modified":"2018-04-05T09:13:47","modified_gmt":"2018-04-05T13:13:47","slug":"johan-fredrich-seidler-1744-1813","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/2018\/04\/johan-fredrich-seidler-1744-1813\/","title":{"rendered":"Johann Fredrich Seidler (1744-1813)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/family\/family-e-o\/p508.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Johann Fredrich Seidler<\/a> was born 5 Apr 1744 in Germany. The papers I inherited do not mention a place, but they do state that he was a pastor at Elben in Kurshessen (now prob.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/dir\/Elbenberg,+34311+Naumburg,+Germany\/\/@51.2302416,9.1426319\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Elbenberg<\/a>\u00a0near Naumburg). I wrote about his wife Wilhelmina\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/2018\/03\/wilhelmina-schmidt-1757-1832\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">before<\/a>. He is my son-in-law&#8217;s fourth great-grandfather.<\/p>\n<p>The sources I have are typed extracts, but most don&#8217;t state who typed them, and from which documents they were extracted. They were part of family papers, that I was able to scan, but they are short on important details like places.<\/p>\n<p>Familysearch is not too much help, as they don&#8217;t seem to have filmed many records from that area. Also they are frequently mislabeled in the search results: for instance they label the Zivilstandesambt register for Gro\u00dfenenglis (Civil Registration) as &#8220;copy of Evangelische Church book,&#8221; including Jewish records. Also the covered time periods are mostly very short, in this case 1808-1812; not too useful (at least for me.)<sup>(1)<\/sup><\/p>\n<p>So for the moment there are still a lot of unknowns, and Johann Frederick is a dead end. It is unknown where his ten children are born, or where they married and died. Only for his youngest son Heinrich Wilhelm (my son-in-law&#8217;s third great-grandfather) is a death place known, he died in Gro\u00dfenenglis on 5 Apr 1866, exactly 120 years after his father was born. But there are no records online to prove it.<\/p>\n<p>(1) I ran into somewhat of the same problem with other German areas: see <a href=\"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/2018\/04\/martha-mayer-1882\/\">Martha Mayer<\/a>. There the indexers designated the date of the civil registration as a christening date for Jewish births! At least there the time coverage was better.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Johann Fredrich Seidler was born 5 Apr 1744 in Germany. The papers I inherited do not mention a place, but they do state that he was a pastor at Elben in Kurshessen (now prob.\u00a0Elbenberg\u00a0near Naumburg). I wrote about his wife Wilhelmina\u00a0before. He is my son-in-law&#8217;s fourth great-grandfather. The sources I &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[43,5],"tags":[34,30],"class_list":["post-989","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-born-on-this-day","category-family","tag-research","tag-seidler","column","onecol"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/989","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=989"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/989\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":991,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/989\/revisions\/991"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=989"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=989"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=989"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}