{"id":982,"date":"2018-04-03T17:52:34","date_gmt":"2018-04-03T21:52:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/?p=982"},"modified":"2018-04-04T06:37:04","modified_gmt":"2018-04-04T10:37:04","slug":"jacob-jans-cleve-1711","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/2018\/04\/jacob-jans-cleve-1711\/","title":{"rendered":"Jacob Jans Cleve (1711-)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jacob Cleve was baptised on 3 Apr 1711 in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/place\/Westerlee,+Netherlands\/@53.1369475,6.9482756\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Westerlee, Groningen<\/a>, second son and 4th child of <a href=\"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/family\/family-e-o\/p4386.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jan Jacobs (Cleve)<\/a>\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/family\/family-d-o\/p4386.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dutch link<\/a>) and Antje Roelfs. He is my 6th great-granduncle, on my mother&#8217;s side.<\/p>\n<p>He probably did not live long; his father names later, with his third wife, two more sons Jacob, the last one in 1733. This one probably goes on to have children with Geessien Beerends: at least a Jacob Jans Kleeve names a daughter Asse in 1767 in Westerlee (he has three other children as well.)<\/p>\n<p>Jan Jacobs Cleve or Kleeve, or sometimes without a surname, just Jan Jacobs, married first Antje Roelfs, who is my 7th great-grandmother. He had seven children with Antje, they named the first two daughters Engel. As Antje&#8217;s parents were Roelf Jans and Wipke Willems, Engel should be his mother. So on a hunch I searched for the combination Engel and Jacob. And I was lucky, because Engel married as her second husband Jacob Hindrix:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Banns for Jacob Hindrix from Groningen and\u00a0Engel Jans van Meeden, widow of Jacob Cleve on 21 Jun 1685 in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/place\/Meeden,+Netherlands\/@53.1395523,6.8979221\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Meeden<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/EngelJans-1685.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-983 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/EngelJans-1685-300x67.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"575\" height=\"141\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I say I was lucky, because previous husbands are not indexed in the <a href=\"http:\/\/allegroningers.nl\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">allegroningers<\/a> database, so if Engel had married anyone else, the search would have been quite a bit more complicated.<\/p>\n<p>While Meeden church records do seem to start in 1668, so far I have not been able to find neither Engel&#8217;s first marriage nor any baptisms with Engel and Jacob as parents. I guess that has to wait for another brainstorm.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jacob Cleve was baptised on 3 Apr 1711 in Westerlee, Groningen, second son and 4th child of Jan Jacobs (Cleve)\u00a0(dutch link) and Antje Roelfs. He is my 6th great-granduncle, on my mother&#8217;s side. He probably did not live long; his father names later, with his third wife, two more sons &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[43,5],"tags":[17],"class_list":["post-982","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-born-on-this-day","category-family","tag-de-haan","column","onecol"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/982","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=982"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/982\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":985,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/982\/revisions\/985"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=982"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=982"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/dutchgenie.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=982"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}